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Change Animagus from status to quest(As invisibility cloak was changed)

WoPideasblahblah 3 years ago updated by World of Potter 2 years ago 16

As Animagus is something you can train to become, if you are extremely talented, it could be great if it wasn't put in the same category as "abilities you are born with or changed to" as werewolf, veela and metamorphmagus is.

It could instead be a VERY DIFFICULT quest, as the unicorn one in the forbidden forrest. You need to fulfill a wide range of requirements to get it, so that not everyone can have it. These could be:
- You need to be on your 5. year or higher
- You should be level 100
- You need to brew a special potion

- You get the quest if you have 20 topic answers in "the ministry of magic" forum (and the before mentioned requirements fulfilled)
- You will need to click on a mandrake leaf that you have in your chest or in pets (if that will make it easier to code?) for 1 or 2 weeks 3 times a day. 

And if you miss one of these clicks on the leaf you will have lost the leaf from your mouth and lost the quest - you will also not be able to get the quest again, as it is with the unicorn/Jobberknoll quest.

With this way, everyone has a chance, as everyone has a chance in the harry potter books if they train enough, but it will be difficult and since you only have 1 try not everyone will be an animagus, so it will not be a "everyone can do that now" kind of thing. Only a few will be it and they will only be it because they have out in a lot of effort and time.

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On some sites, the cloak item has not replaced the status.

Also I don't think this should happen. What about the people who already have the status? 

the people who had the cloak status on the danish site for example, could choose a new status instead. So this could happen for this one too

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Yeah, but animagus is one of those ones that people would be quite annoyed at being lost. On EU the cloaks you can buy aren't IG as they disappear after use and they aren't THE cloak. That is the one in the status.

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Personally disagree. Everyone already has a chance for the status, as an animgaus. And truthfully, I think the status competition gives people a better chance for the status than the conditions you've set. 


As someone who has won the status, I had to put work into obtaining the status. "Only a few will be it and they will only be it because they have out in a lot of effort and time." Only a few people are animagus, and it did take effort and time. 


I don't see how your way is much different, besides being harder and less available to obtain. 

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I am def not saying that the status competitions on the sites doesn't take effort and time, this isn't a "they don't matter" thing, it is a "This will keep it not normal/easy/something everyone can be" thing. :D
And even tho everyone gets a chance to be an animagus with the status competitions, they will have to wait for there to be a competition and that can be with several IRL years between and is a competition between users, this will be something you can do whenever YOU have the time, not when there's made a competition. But it does give more people a chance to try because it is not ONE competition with ONE winner, which is also why it should be more difficult to gain

the conditions I am setting here is only an example and is not set in stone - as I am obviously not the one making the decisions :D 

I personally would love for the chance to get a status, but when the possibilty is once every second IRL year, and animagus is something you IG realistically could be if you trained, I would love for that to be a thing I could play with without having to wait for a competition, where the chance of getting it is slim because 30 people is fighting for the same thing - But I have deep and greatest respect for those of you who have won one. I myself is simply not that lucky.

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Then you can work harder in the competition. It is often hard to win the competition, it is not quick and easy. A lot of people really take the competitions very seriously.

They aren't usually several years between them, all the places I'm on usually do them once or twice every IRL year?

You says making it a quest is what is going to keep it harder to obtain, but it seems like the purpose is just so it’s easier to obtain for people who have trouble with the competitions. I understand wanting to win, but just because someone is unlucky I don’t think it should be made even more accessible when the system they have works. 

Yes, competitions don’t happen often and you might not be able to participate in one, but that’s just how it goes. I think the change would be incredibly unfair, especially if someone has won the status before. Not only would the status be incredibly obtainable by some people, it might become impossible for people to re-win the status.

Simply put, it’s fine how it is. It’s easily enough obtainable, and not impossible. It’s meant to be rare. The percentage of animagus’ statuses on site already far exceeds the percentage of animagus to non-animagus in the books. We’re already way past the realistic boundaries of the status. 

I appreciate all of your thoughts on my idea, but I do not appreciate the notion that I (or other people who hasn't won) shouldn't be a hardworking person when it comes to the competitions. But I really can see where you come from with your thought upon this idea and your critisism of it.

On the site I am on, we have at least 1 year between the status contests(but that is only this year. we had one i 2018, 2020 and 2021) :D It is not only a matter of "wanting to win" it is to make it accessible in a new way. People who already have the status would of course keep it - because realism with this kind of thing is hard, then we should change a lot of things, if it should fit the books percentage of X number of items.

I meant nothing I said as a slight to you, or to imply that you weren't hardworking when it comes to any competitions. I apologize if it did. 

However, the competitons are all about fun. What makes the competitions fun is not only competing, but the prizes. There's more value, in my opinion, to winning something like the status than just obtaining it from an everyday quest. I just don't see the value in your points.


To get to Year 5, as per one of your conditions, is close to one year in real life which seems to be the time between status competitons. The status is accessable through a status competiton. There's no reason to try and make it more accessable, as it just dilutes having the status.  And yes, the site isn't supposed to religiously stick to all limitations set by the source material, but the reason status competitions happen once every year or so is because the status is meant to be rare. I might be misunderstanding, but I don't see the purpose in trying to make the status more accessable besides people just making it easier to obtain.


It's meant to be something hard to obtain, and it's different from the Cloak Quest. The cloak is a jokey sort of item, with limited usage. Unless you're asking for a one-time, jokey use as an animal on a wallpost, the animagus status is something that changes a character and has a huge impact on a character. It's very different from the intentions and purpose of a quest.

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I won’t repeat the point about invisibility cloaks not equating to status replacements (at least on EU), since Drew did that well already. 

But wanted to add that, while I get where you’re coming from with this and why you want it to be easier to obtain for users who haven’t won the competition, it’s important to remember that Animagus abilities in canon are still exceptionally rare, and opening them up for something of a “free-for-all” in this sense – regardless of the difficulty of the achievements needed (though some could well be spammed to reach and not everyone may follow rules) – may undermine that level of IG difficulty and rarity. Having only a few Animagus users on a site because of the competitions is realistic to canon, and the site leaders are evidently aware that it’s one of the more common of the rare statuses as they’ve posted it as one of the statuses to win in more than one competition. The rarity of it is not only part of what keeps it special for the winners, but what keeps it true to the specialness with which it’s treated in canon, too. It’s rare. And simply because a group of four boys managed it doesn’t mean all can – in fact, IG, the process can be extraordinarily dangerous for those who don’t execute it properly, and I suspect it would be unrealistic for many to go for the opportunity and have clear paths of success.  

Further, the nature of a status competition allows for close consideration by the backstory leader and other involved site leaders in order to ensure that the user who is winning will execute the status in a realistic way, based on the way they’ve already written it. That can’t be proven with open accessibility and could provide a host of problems for the management – backstory leaders in particular – as they try to keep order and ensure every Animagus is keeping their content realistic and true to canon. A status competition tends to have the bonus of ensuring that realism from the start, and those who go for the opportunity are often also those who know that it’ll be realistic to their characters as well. It lightens the workload on what could be a very troublesome department to monitor. 

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I completely agree

I can def see what you mean, but maybe I have a different take on the competition and statusses, because we've had status winners that won theirs because they wrote "happy birthday", which doesn't give the "we will ensure realism" part - Not that this person isn't realistic in their game, they are! 
And most of, if not all, out status comp. is where we can choose freely, there isn't special statusses, you pick and choose as you like, so animagus isn't "offered" in that way, on that site :D But it sounds great that it is that way! So only the ones who want that specific status joins the competition, and not the whole site, because you can get whatever one you want...if you win

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Then perhaps mention that as constructive criticism to the MoM of that site you are on. It works well on so many other sites.

On WoX statuses tend to have either unlimited or X number of people can have it - maybe this should be added for the Animagus status if the site continues to offer every status